Conventional Loan 90 Day Flip Rule

The first-time homebuyer in the Antelope Valley has faced a competitive
wall recently when trying to purchase lower end homes, let’s say less
than $100,000 in price. A typical first-time homebuyer barely saves up
the 3.5% needed for the down payment on an FHA loan and might need help with closing costs. They make their offer accordingly and then get beat on their offer by an investor buying with all cash or a conventional
loan asking for no closing costs. But a rumor in real estate circles
indicates a big change may come by October 1, 2009.

For a while the Federal Housing Administration has maintained that properties sold within the first 90 days of acquisition are not eligible for FHA insured financing. This means an investor who buys a property and then wants to resell the property within this time, or “flip” the property
as it is called, can’t sell to an FHA buyer. Lenders want the seller to
have title for a period of time and this is called title seasoning.

Well, by October title seasoning may be necessary for conventional loans too, and with tighter restrictions. In other words, properties sold within
the first 90 days of acquisition are not eligible for financing with
a conventional loan. If so, everyone believes the VA loans will follow
suit also. Currently Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have have no official
title seasoning rule like the the FHA’s. However, there are many
conventional lenders who have already imposed their own rules
concerning title seasoning. But this new policy, if it goes into
effect, will be widespread and may go furthar in requiring a second
appraisal, or field review, from a National Appraisal Company to back
up the first appraisal.This will be for a period when the title is
seasoned 90 days but not yet a year. Exceptions will apply, as they
have for FHA, for foreclosed properties, new home builders, and certain
relocation situations.

The 90 day to a year second appraisal requirement may hurt investors who bought properties in terrible condition and under market value and then fix them up to resell for a profit. If a second appraisal is needed you
can bet the first one will be very conservative in nature so that the
first appraiser has very few questions to answer. Dollar amounts for
repairs will be carefully looked at to see if they are in line.
Investors might not get the profit they hoped for. Suddenly, FHA buyers
will be looking better to sellers, that is if  FHA doesn’t
start asking for second appraisals also. And, of course, there might be
less competition from investors for the first-time homebuyer.


9 comments so far

  1. Steve on

    I have heard this same thing, do you have any source that has more information on 90-day seasoning on conventional loans? Where did the October date come from?

    An agent just told me this today and it will sure make things interesting, probably completely screw a lot of investors.

  2. Edward Kenzer on

    I’m writing based on emails and conversations I have received from various lenders and title reps. They’ve yet to show me what they’ve received. Sometimes they have nothing but a word passed down from a corporate head during a meeting. That’s why I classified it a rumor in the first paragraph. However, my reps have been reliable for heads-up info in the past. We’ll see; I’m sure there will be a follow up post.

  3. Ryan on
  4. jim on

    Just to give you a heads up, we are doing a conventional loan and just ran into this issue. We had to extend closing to allow time for a second appraisal and move to a lender that has not instituted thier own 90 day rule yet. What a blind-sided punch that one was.

    • Saru on

      Jim, can you tell me which lender did you finally go with? I am in the same situation currently and am hearing not many lenders approve loan with under 90 day contract. We are currently in escrow and would like to see our options soon. Thanks!

  5. Carl Boutte on

    I found this page while trying to get information about the 90 Flip Rule. It has already killed a few VA loan transactions for me, and this week a conventional transaction financed with Wells Fargo. It looks like the new rules are taking the First Time Buyers and the middle class, trying to make a buck, out of the market.

  6. Towel Rails on

    you can avail of home loans from several companies that offer low interest rates ..,

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